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the tension should be through the breath/qi rather than imagining that you are physically causing tension - as in the iron wire forms of the hung gar system: whereby, you physically[and mentally] imagine shifting, pulling etc. a great weight, then the tension is exerted into the joints with turning movements and so forth in this form, it appears the idea is to remain completely relaxed and allow the correlation of opposing muscles/tendons to work out the correct strength "exertion" through qi

I have read that there can be no muscular tension at all- in fist form yi jin jing. One must visualize tensing his muscles but with no external movement. How it differs from another forms where tension is involved?

Dude !! I'm not what u would term a daily practitioner, but i do practise kung fu...the physical along with the theoretical....and i blend the two with the guidance of my sifu.........these exercises DO IN FACT WORK, BUT if you do it in a mere mechanical way (i.e copy the motions) you will not reap the benefits, to reap the benefits of this 'exercise' you must be an ardent student of kung fu...and u must practice this with vizualization and belief..

Basically, Chi Gong is to balance your mind, body and spirit. Da Mo great grandmaster created this for the monks to restore energy due to the bad circulation from meditation or any other reason you might encounter in this modern world. Good for health. My master Shi Guo Song had taught me this and I love it for my good health. movements are some what different from one another.

Hi, I am not a daily practitioner, but 'Visualised Resistance Training' appears to accomplish something similar - builds muscle through relaxation and tension without the use of weights (although putting additional pressure on the muscles and tendons apparently yields much higher results). This form also adds maintained/increased flexibility to the equation.

what exactly is this supposed to do to your body? anybody!! preferably a daily practitioner : ) your opinion will definitely be helpful thankyou respectfully

You're welcome! I'm glad that I could help you out with this :-) Good luck with the practicing, it's going to be tough, but you already know... ;-)

Yeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhhh!!!! Perfect! I've made a search at internet at this moment and I've found a book at Amazon website that shows the diagrams of that technique and it's exactly that Chi Kung technique that I've mentioned that I had practiced in the past. Thank you so much my friend for helping me to find out what I was trying to discover for years. Your perception to realise what I had tried to describe was perfect. Thank you! Good luck!

The way you describe the set of excercises reminds me of Da Mo Wai Dan.

Thanx for the posting!!!! Buddha bless you!!!

the performer is Shi De Yang, right?

The core standing qigong - holding the ball is the same, generally, in Chen Xiao Wang's video and DaChengChuan. DaChengChuan can also be called YiQuan (Mind-form boxing), which has taken it's 'Yi' from Xing Yi - another internal martial art like Tai Chi and Bagua zhang - you've probably heard of this, but it sounds more like the art you described your teacher who went to Japan taught. Unfortunately this is the internal art I am least acquainted with. There are so many systems though - good luck!

I would very much like to find out what style of Chi King is that one I'd practiced when I was a teenage. Unfortunately my Si-Fu who has teached me this style of Chi Kung had to move to live in Japan and I never saw him anymore. I ended losing contact with him. But he was a very impressive master of Chi Kung. He has made very impressive demonstrations on martial arts tournaments at my country. He was able to stand above of an empty box of matches without crushing it, lika a levitation.

But Erime, it's not what Chen Xiao Wang teaches on video that you did recomend. I remember it was a set of positions that first we had to put a lot of strenght on arms and other muscles and doing the positions with the hands open, like we were striking with the palms of our hands. Then later we would have to change to do movements in same way but with clenched fist, like we were crushing something on our hands. I remember I always had got very sweated on classes, my clothes completely wet.

Thank you for your explanation! I've acquired the whole diagram of Yi Jin Jing and I will start to practice it. I've searched for the DaChengChuan that you've mentioned and ended finding out another technique of Chi Kung that I'd practiced together with the one I've forgot. It's called Zhan Zhuang Chi Kung. I remember we had to practice it before of going to the set of static positions which we had to stay for about 1 or 2 minutes to change to the next position.

Generally with these things the breath can be left to flow naturally from the dantien as one moves and it will sort itself out instinctively. As a rough guide, movements away from the body which could issue energy (like a punch) tend to be accompanied by breathing out. Maybe the style you studied was more like DaChengChuan standing qigong - try the video 'Chen Xiao Wang teaches standing' - this is a very powerful qigong which lies at the core of the best internal martial arts

Does anyone know how the breathing works on these movements??? I've learnet an style of Chi Kung many years ago that I've forgot completely and I've also forgot the name. I was thinking it was Yi Jing Jing, but it isn't. On this style the breathing was diaphragmatic, but the movments were static. It seems it was much more tough than Yi Jing Jing.

ialmost broke my ankle when you go like really low part first time i did this because my feet where a little wet and i ws on wood floor.........wasnt to smart

Posting for BioSattva also; can't find the link - it was a while ago now, but you should be able to find the forum(s) on google - most of the video files were rapidshare downloads - plenty of weird styles - Emei Pan Gong was a good one I remember.

whats the site i love qi gong and im always lookin for new forms to learn and new lessons

A forum somewhere where people posted a whole load of chinese videos teaching different kung fu and qigong styles - because they're mostly in Chinese then I guess they don't get distributed much. If you look; you will find! :D

ya man its cool to see authentic stuff on here. lol too much BOGUS!! and its the only one i've seen. where did u find it?

I looked a lot also, like yourself, and so when I found it I just had to post it! Glad you enjoyed :D I believe it's the only authentic demo on youtube (well it was when I posted it anyway).

this is the REAL yi jinjing. the first TRUE copy i have seen yet, and trust me i have looked =] shi de yang does it again!